Thursday, 23 June 2011

Half knowledge, science and atheism

Swami Gulagulaananda said:
"Half knowledge and extrapolating with that is extremely dangerous"

We like to think of ourselves as modern. We like to think of ourselves as people who have a scientific bent of mind. The problem is that, we have reached great levels of complacency in this area - of our confidence to extrapolate our minuscule knowledge to areas that we don't even understand and even go to levels of judging them.

I recently happened to stumble across a post where a man goes on rambling about the Vedas, saying that they are merely literature that have no value per se, saying that they are terribly flawed and are books that can be read by anyone. He goes on to say that the religious people are actually creating a blockade by saying that only enlightened people under enlightened gurus can understand them, and ordinary people can't. He rubbishes all this, and explains his version of what he thinks is right. He also goes on to say that there is nothing deep hidden in them... His name is Neo by the way and here is the post.

Alright, one approach to this is to accept what he says is right. Perhaps it is. However, let's take another approach - The Vedas have always been considered to be the greatest literature of all time. If it was not, there would not be so many great geniuses in the past such that each was writing his own interpretation of the Vedas and related scriptures. If it was as easy as Neo was saying, then my belief is that everyone should have been writing same conclusions. It's like watching a movie or reading yet another novel and asking for their conclusions. Should be the same.

However, it is not always the case - at least not in Hinduism. For one, most of the information is stored in code. The simplest and best example to be given in this respect is the idol of Lord Ganesha. If I were to explain to you, a very complex metaphysical concept which involved terms like transcendental and metaphysical, you would be blown off by the jargon. Leave alone the complex concept. However, if you put all of this into a picture (A picture is worth a thousand words) it is easier to remember the concept. The idol of Ganesha is supposed to indicate a lot of concepts - why His eyes are shown small, why He has one tusk, why He ties a snake around His belly, what does the snake represent, and so on. However, talking about things like Kundalini and other things are very confusing to an average person. So the ancient Hindus decided to make stories - mythological stories that tell you that Ganesha's belly exploded because he overate and thus he tied a snake. It's a simple story for everyone to remember... The underlying concept is now no longer known directly to a person who reads the story.

Note what happened here. Now people only know the stories, not the actual concept that was originally hidden inside for remembering. Or at least inducing faith. Now, the modern Hindu would perhaps denounce it as idol worship or perhaps make fun saying that Hindu Gods were mutants because of their out-of-the-world appearance. Even Vishnu's four arms, what is held in each hand has a great deal of symbolic representation. Similarly Brahma and Shiva.

Another example - there is a hymn which is to Lord Krishna. Yes, at the outset, it is just a hymn. But, in Sanskrit, each letter is given a numeric value (used in Vedic mathematics) and if that is used in the hymn, you get the value of pi up to 61 places. Now tell me, do you think any ordinary guy who reads that hymn will decode it? He will obviously think this is a praise to Krishna.

Now you tell me - do you think you know how many things have been encoded in the Vedas? Do you know which part is encoded and which is literal? And this, perhaps is the very reason why there are so many different interpretations of the same text. Only people who have a vast understanding of concepts can truly appreciate it. Otherwise anyone who knew basic Sanskrit (like Neo) would be reading it. Reading it is not a big deal, understanding is.


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Sriranga Chidambara

Neo has encouraged 'common men' to read the vedas. Is it so esoteric that we must only believe what some baba says?

Nikhil Baliga
I have written this at the end

"Only people who have a vast understanding of concepts can truly appreciate it. Otherwise anyone who knew basic Sanskrit (like Neo) would be reading it. Reading it is not a big deal, understanding is."

Even I would encourage you to read it. You would read it like it was poetry/literature. But whether you can truly understand all the concepts of the Vedas is a question. It is not necessary that some baba has to tell it to you. If you are intelligent you can figure it out yourself :)

Sriranga Chidambara
and if you figure out that it's not all mind blowing and earth shattering, you aren't intelligent enough :P

This is the kind of circular reasoning Neo talks about :)

Ramesh Radhakrishna
What makes me lean towards neo is that, everyone goes on praising vedas ... But, I havent seen a 'single' person who comes forward and says this is what it means and hence it is great ... This reminds me of a physics professor who kept saying Quantum physics is amazing, greatest and the most wonderful thing. When approached he would escape giving reasons ... He didn't know what quantum physics meant .. I bet there will be at least 9 in 10 who will follow the hype ... I feel that "might" have happened ..... To really praise vedas and write for it, I feel one has to understand and feel it's greatness first before proclaiming it is great

No. half knowledge about vedas and yet praising vedas is also not so healthy .... -> One of my cousin used to do this and we usually end up having a fight ... :-) :-)

Nikhil Baliga
‎@Ranga - Yeah, but that IS the fact. Like I told you, would you be able to decipher pi to the 60+ places from a sloka dedicated to Krishna? Similarly, you don't have sufficient data to pass a judgement. You just are not intelligent enough, and that is a fact...

@Ramesh - Yeah, I agree. The converse is also true. Which is why Neo is wrong. You just don't know enough to pass judgements on either side. Which is why one must either study it deeply or refrain from commenting.

Ramesh Radhakrishna
But, no wrong in having an opinion and expressing it ... Holds good for arguments on either side ... If 'no/half knowledged' people express and spread their opinion that vedas are the ultimate ... I guess same half knowledged can say vedas are ordinary ... Do correct me if I am wrong ... :-)

Nikhil Baliga
Yes, you are wrong :P I'll correct you.

When a person says something is good, there is a chance that someone will try it. When someone says something is not good, there are very high chances that people won't try it.

If many tell you that SX4 or City is a good car, you might consider it while buying it. If many tell that they are horrible, your mindset is against it. Your inclination towards it drops radically - although logically you should try in either case, that's not how humans are. Am I right?

Nikhil Baliga
http://vedic-dharma.blogspot.com/2006/08/vedic-numerical-code.html

Ramesh Radhakrishna
See ... Now I know more and found the link very interesting .... Very nice link ... People do not know or say the hidden meanings ... How are we supposed to know the real meaning ? Half/No knowledged people speaking highly about vedas are the ones to be blamed.... They blatantly go praising without knowing and once we sit down to see if it is valid we get no data and end up thinking it might not mean much ...

It is these guys who need to be blamed for making people get a feel that vedas are indeed very ordinary ....

Reminds me of KRV ... Going on a donkey to promote a language makes foreigners to the language get a negative feel ...

Do share any other things that you might have ...

Sriranga Chidambara
why did they encode pi in some mantra? That baffles me! If it was read with a religious mindset, I am sure people wouldn't have found about all this. Calling Vedas 'literature' is not an insult! A good thing about them is that no-one claims it is the word of god. We must be proud of human intellect that had the foresight to come up with such good works.

In your post you have called Ganesha, Shiva et al to be symbolic. I like that thought and glad you didn't go on to provide links which prove Ravana actually had 10 heads and a jet!!

Also, we must understand that Vedas are indeed a wealth of knowledge, but everything in it is not necessarily true!! Ancient people thought Earth is the center of the universe! They thought eclipses were some evil force and it took us some time to debunk those myths!

"would you be able to decipher pi to the 60+ places from a sloka dedicated to Krishna?"

No. Never and I would like to know how the person who discovered it knew it would contain the value of pi!

"You just are not intelligent enough, and that is a fact". Again, you are discouraging a person from even attempting to read the vedas! How is one supposed to know that there is hidden information(I wouldn't call it hidden meaning) if the book doesn't give clues about it? If it does, I'd probably figure it out. Who knows!!

So, this is like hiding all the valuable information in the world in a decent movie using something like steganography and calling all those people who watched it, and called it OK, unintelligent coz they didn't understand the hidden meaning! (Extreme example, just so that you get the point!)

Nikhil Baliga
Ok, why they encoded pi? Good question. But they encoded it. So, that means that Vedas and related scriptures do contain a wealth of information. Whether everything in the Vedas is true or not? We don't know. We can't judge it at our current levels of knowledge. That Hindu Gods are symbolic is known to people who go under the surface. Read about concepts like Nirguna Brahman and Vishnu (Brahman with form) - that is truly Hinduism. Puranic stories were created to teach a lot of things, make it truly beautiful instead of making it theory :) I love the stories from the Puranas.

I am not discouraging you from learning. I am discouraging you from judging before learning. Why don't you first stop thinking of yourself as an agnostic/atheist, and keep an open mind. Think of all possibilities. Try and understand what's written, what it could mean, what others took it as... Even then if you felt it was yet another philosophy book, then I will agree to you. Right now, you just don't have adequate knowledge. Maybe Ravana did have a jet :) You don't know.

Aditya Padaki
I agree with Nik when he says we should completely understand OR refrain from commenting. The authenticity and implications may go beyond our understanding on a casual read. Now why Vedas have been encoded in such a complicated manner (with all the steganography ;) ) is a question whose answer we are unsure of. We should be open to the fact that there may indeed be a very solid reason to encode it in such an abstruse manner even if the reason is not evident/obvious.

Just like understanding any science or any form of knowledge needs a concentrated effort and guidance, Vedas also need high amounts of dedication and guidance to completely comprehend them. Vedas are surely not like any general knowledge storehouse that can be understood by a casual read but are very elaborate than that. Unknowingly trivialising such scriptures is definitely not correct.

Sriranga Chidambara
Hey! Just read your comments on the original blog.

The early morning sun rays contains UV rays of a wavelength that split the cow dung into formaldehyde, and that mixed with water gives formalin, a known disinfectant that keeps your surroundings germ free.

I bet my life that the ancient Indians didn't know that UV rays split cow dung into formaldehyde! It was mere experimentation with various stuff around them that has been in use for long and now we know all the science behind it coz we 'questioned' the practice and did not take such practices as 'veda vakya'!

"If you eat a lot of peanuts, you feel thirsty" - so this is my observation! after some years (or already) if someone finds the science behind this, can I claim I knew it all along?

And I think we are digressing here. I don't think everything our ancestors performed as rituals is 'dumb' nor do I feel there is some hidden meaning in every action! We must understand that they, like us were also humans and made mistakes. (ex. eclipses)

Nikhil Baliga
‎@Ranga - You are going back to the square one by saying they didn't know about formaldehyde. How do YOU know what they knew and didn't know? It can never be conclusively proved. You can hypothesise or assume. I am not saying they knew exactly about the UV rays, but they would have seen that germs don't thrive in areas where this is done.

They would have discovered it by accident only, like so many other accidental discoveries. In fact, when I say "experimentation", it means I am trying out something. How would someone know what fruits are poisonous and which herbs are healing? Of course it is trial and error, and they did make mistakes. However, they would have, after a lot of trials and errors, compiled things that they are sure as correct.

Whether it is correct or not - You can go and read and understand and compare it with your test results and see if they match or not. If I tell you that you will die if you fall from the tenth floor, you don't have to try because you know it now. But tell me in reality, if you hadn't read about this, nor seen it, would you? Just like that, the scriptures are means of teaching things so that you don't go through them to discover what is already known.

My point is singular - Don't trash something without knowing it. What might seem ordinary to you MIGHT be having hidden knowledge like the pi one, the rituals MIGHT have originally had some meaning that might be lost subsequently - but YOU don't have adequate knowledge to judge it

Sriranga Chidambara
The ifs, mights and buts! Like someone has posted on Neo's blog - Do you accept if someone says today there is a live pig orbiting the sun? If you don't can I say YOU don't have the knowledge to judge it?

Loved one of the comments on Neo's blogs:

Quoting Bertrand Russel, if u were told that there is a teapot that orbits around the Sun in the solar system, it would be very difficult to disprove it, but to accept it just bcoz it cant be disproved sounds totally insane.

Nikhil Baliga
Just because you don't understand something, doesn't make it wrong. That's what I am saying. Like the tea pot, sure, there could be a tea pot orbiting. Why do you think it is insane?

I'll tell you why you think it is insane. You will wonder how did a tea pot get over there? This is based on the assumption that all tea pots in the universe are from earth, and that someone from earth should have put it there - There! You have already limited your thoughts. Why do you think all tea pots are from earth? Who else will make tea pots you ask?

Doesn't that show a second limitation? You are now assuming that life exists only on earth, only earthlings make tea pots. There are other possibilities. You are not considering them because you are not exposed to them at this point.

A simple example - Would you believe it possible to make a train that weighs several tonnes to float? Leave along float, but to make it float and move? After seeing Maglevs, yes, it is possible. Before Maglev, you would have said it is ridiculous to make a train float... So, similarly, you have no idea - it may sound fancy, impossible and whimsical. Lots of things sounded like that till they were achieved. Do you think a 15th century guy would believe if you would say that you can make a metallic bird? Today we have gone out of the earth. Same way - Just because your knowledge is limited, you are trying to say it is not possible. You don't have adequate data to judge some things. So, refrain from judging it

Sriranga Chidambara
Believing what is possible is different from believing that it already exists! I believe a lot of things are _possible_ but can't believe that Ravana flew a metallic bird just coz I don't have proof against it!

Nikhil Baliga
Why can't you believe it?

Sriranga Chidambara
coz development of an aircraft was not spontaneous. There have been many developments before an aircraft was developed that aided in making of an air craft!

Why can't we begin by assuming it didn't exist and you can go ahead and prove it did. :P

Nikhil Baliga Ok :-) Have you heard about Vymanika Shastra?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaimanika_Shastra

Sunday, 19 June 2011

Karna teaches us Charity

Swami Gulagulaananda said:
"It's human to be fickle... which is why we end up in a pickle"

This is a story from the great epic Mahabharata that I heard when I was a child, and remember it very well.

One morning, Karna was applying oil to his body. He held a golden bowl containing oil in his left hand, and was applying oil with his right hand, when a poor Brahmin came begging for alms. "Please give me something, oh kind Sir" he begged. Karna who was known for his great charity (daana shoora Karna) immediately gave him the golden bowl that he held in his left hand to the Brahmin.

The Brahmin on receiving the bowl, looked a little surprised, and said "One must always hand out things with their right hands. Why are you giving me alms with your left hand?" At which Karna said "By the time I take the bowl from my left hand and transfer it to my right hand, and then give it to you, I might change my mind."

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This is a beautiful story that tells us how fickle human nature is. There are many times when you feel that you want to give something to someone, and if you don't act, with time, you start developing an attitude that "It's my money, I earned it by working hard. Why should I part with it?" And this is human nature indeed. Another SMS that I got was "Rs 100 looks so small when you go shopping, and so big when you have to put it in the hundi of a temple"

Jolicloud Web OS - A review

Swami Nikhilaananda said:
"Try out Joli OS :-)"

My netbook has Windows XP (Pre-installed) and Ubuntu which I installed subsequently. Both of these work really well on my netbook - no lag, very good speed, and both are very powerful operating systems. But still, I wanted to try out a web os to see what's so cool about it.

So I decided to experiment with the much awaited Chrome OS. I went for the sister project Chromium OS. (Do you want to install it? Read here) However, I was facing a lot of issues while trying to install any apps, perhaps because it was a live run from my USB drive. Of course, you can't expect me to install it to my hard drive, since it will use the entire disk. So I was very disappointed with it, since it is useless if I can't install any apps.

Joli OS
Along came Joli Cloud - a really good web OS. I came across this when I was looking for a nice one. Installing it was a cinch. I just downloaded the Windows installer from their website. It's free of cost. I then went into Windows, ran the installer. A very simple process.

It has a very neat interface. Some features that I liked were the following. It has a very small task bar. So, for a netbook where screen size is small, it doesn't waste any space. It has a search bar at the centre where you can search for an app directly without looking for it. Type, and done.

Apps
It has a great repository of apps. You name it, you will find it. For Office, there are shortcuts for both MS Office live and Google Docs - Both great Office apps.

Chrome inside Joli?
And what's best? It runs the Chromium browser and this means all of the Chrome apps are available inside Joli OS as well! Which is the best of all, isn't it? Why would you want to go for Chrome OS now?

Joli inside Chrome
If you want, you can download and run the Joli cloud OS inside your Chrome browser! That's right, there is an app which you can install inside Chrome, and run it. Login with your Joli account and boom! Your desktop should come there. All of these are also connected via the ubiquitous Facebook.

On the downside though, it looks like a persistent internet connection is needed. Which is a great disadvantage... Will put up more stuff as I use it a little more

Friday, 17 June 2011

Try Chrome OS

Swami Nikhilaananda said:
"Chrome rhymes with loam, foam and Rome. Heh! I hope it is successful for its own good :-) "

There has been a lot of hype and buzz around Google's Operating System called Chrome OS, which is supposed to be a web OS - an OS in a browser. Apparently you can place order for your Chromebooks with Chrome OS pre-built. Place an order from Amazon or Bestbuy or visit Google's Chrome OS site for more into. [What's a Web OS? Learn more]

Since I am not sure about it, I thought it would be better for me to try it out. I already own a netbook [Read review here] and Chrome OS was supposed to be released for netbooks. Since no words are out there, I thought it is better to try out Chromium OS, the sister project of Chrome OS. In fact, there is also a browser called Chromium which is Chrome's sister browser.

To try out Chromium OS without modifying your system, follow the instructions below. You can also install it subsequently on your hard drive if you wish but it will delete everything. There are two ways of trying - Running from Pen Drive or Running in virtual machine. One of the biggest advantages of Chromium OS is that it can load in <8 seconds. No point running as Virtual machine, if I have to first boot the host.

First, obtain Chromium
You will see the builds in reverse chronological order. Against each build, you will also see VMWare, Virtual Box and USB. The first two are for Virtual Machines. Choose USB and download it. It's a little over 200 Mb.

Next, load it to pen drive
Get a pen drive, erase all the contents. Plug it in. Ensure no application is using the pen drive.
Now, depending on your host OS, follow the instructions given in the website below to load the

Boot machine from pen drive
Restart the machine. Ensure that you have set 'Boot from USB drive' option in the boot options. With the pen drive plugged in, it should start booting from your pen drive. Enjoy!

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Sunday, 12 June 2011

Evangelism with lure of money

Swami Gulagulaananda said:
"Evangelism with lure of money is cheap and underhanded"

This is a very interesting topic - You will find it interesting only if you read this with a completely unprejudiced mindset. Go ahead, comment and post your views.

Christianity as a religion has been very aggressive in its spread. I have had several experiences of attempted conversion and have heard a lot of talk from these evangelists as well. You can see them here.

Modus Operandi
Now, in this post, I would like to talk about christianity trying to spread its tentacles by using money as a bait or lure. How does this work? Simple. There are thousands of people who donate millions of dollars worldwide for the spread of christianity to some missionaries. These missionaries come to places like India, and target poor people. Now, assume there is a destitute who has no money - These people come there and tell them, "We will give you money, you convert to our religion".

So what?
Now comes the interesting part - There are several 'secular' (read pseudo-secular) and 'educated' (read so called scientific bent of mind and so called open minded) people who ask "So what? If they are getting money, that's making them happy right? So how does it matter which religion they belong to?"

Yes, I would be inclined to agree to that point, provided you agree to this - In that case, let's also legalise the following:
Cash for votes - There is a poor man. Rich politician comes up to him and says "We will give you money, you vote for our party". What's wrong in that right? Same logic... They are getting money, that's making them happy. How does it matter then?
Cash for sex - There is a poor woman, and a rich man comes to her and says "I will give you money, come to bed with me" What's wrong in this then? That's making her happy because she is getting money, it's consensual, it's her wish...
Cash for drugs(?) - Ok, there is a poor man. Mafia comes to him and says "Dude, you go peddle drugs, I will give you money". Then there is the son of a rich man who comes to him and says "Give me drugs, and I will give you money" Now what's the problem?
Cash for anything else - Yeah, what's wrong with bribing that friendly neighbourhood traffic policeman? Policeman needs money, you want to avoid fine of Rs 300... Give him Rs 100, both are happy, right?

Ridiculous arguments you say?
Ok, your mindset right now is "Dude, your arguments are ridiculous" How can you equate drugs to the rest of them? It causes harm... Now, who does it cause harm to? To himself, and he is doing it to himself. He takes drugs, and sits in his room, ecstatic. Yeah, he is good for nothing, but heck, he is happy, and the guy from he bought it from, is happy as well - But for some reason, drugs are frowned upon, right? Hey, it is bad, health issues man! Ok, health issues... Then shouldn't we even ban smoking and drinking? In fact, more people smoke and drink than take drugs. In fact, there have been many cases of drunken driving killing innocent people, or murders in stupor, or families ruined because man keeps splurging money in alcohol. Cigarettes also cause harm to others as well as themselves... If you want to ban things that cause harm, then ban them all, right? But that's not happening... If you allow cigarettes (nicotine along with several other narcotics are there anyway) and alcohol (your body can't even process alcohol, which is why your liver goes kaput later, plus you kill others) then why ban drugs?

Cash for whatever - NOT OK!
Ok, now think - If we always keep looking at it with the view that "Hey, both parties are happy, one wants to give money, other wants to take money, and there is a string attached which neither minds" then what happens is that prostitution, cash for votes and drug trade, everything becomes legal... And this is not right. It's not right for all the reasons you know. Which is why religious conversions using lure of money is illegal (though still done)

Same for religion
The same goes for religion - If you want to do social service, do it. Unfortunately, the NGOs that are run by christians are normally focussing on spread of religion. Joyce Meyer ministries, for example, gives education, food, blah blah - makes it sound oh-so-cool and nice, but they also give bibles and abet conversion via lure. Seriously, think about it - If you are so interested in social goodness and wellness, why would you want to introduce religion? If there is an organisation that wants to do good for, say, a poor group of Hindus, don't you think giving them education, food and stopping at that point make them happy? Why introduce religion? It's clear - there is an ulterior motive there.

Learn to respect others for what they are...

Friday, 3 June 2011

An initiative to help children

Hey,

This is regarding a small initiative that we have started off. It's non profit and for a social cause - It would be great if you can read till the end.

We found a gap
We found that there is a growing gap between poor children and rich children in terms of exposure that they have, by the time they complete schooling. On one hand, we have a bunch of kids from well-to-do families who own iPods, computers, Nintendo Wiis and have used microscopes, telescopes, and study in schools that can show them experiments such as titration and acid-base neutralisation using chemicals, reagents, beakers, test tubes and burettes. On the other hand, we have children from poor backgrounds who only hear and read about these things, but never see them happening and only have to visualise, and have no idea about iPods. Did you know? They don't even know what a beaker looks like! Some government schools have computers, and nobody knows how to operate them!

What we thought
Our idea is essentially to create a platform for them to be more involved - we are thinking about creating a lab, or getting equipment like test tubes, reagents, beakers etc. and showing them experiments and encouraging themhttp://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gif to do the same and participate. Another thing that we are thinking about, is to organise some science competitions, where they can create models and present them. We will provide the guidance to them. There are plenty of ways to contribute, and we are totally open to suggestions.

[You can join our group Covalence for brainstorming/discussions. Also, please fill out the form at the end of this post]

This isn't our first time
We have done this several times earlier, and we want to do this again. We have had a really good success earlier, when we went through these initiatives. We had done this under PESIT as part of CDP - Community Development Programme. What we had done then, was organise events such as science competitions, and deliver short presentations by showing videos and live demonstrations. We had given them opportunities to present their models, and gave them lots of prizes and goodies to motivate them. What they are lacking in is exposure, that's all. They are very smart. This time again, we are doing it through PESIT so that we don't have to create an NGO again. PESIT as an institute is going to help out a lot financially as well as other ways by providing space etc. If you are a student or alumnus, here's a great way for you to bond with your institute. If you aren't, don't fret - You don't have to be associated with PESIT in any way to participate. Remember, we chose PESIT, because we have done this through them before, they have been very generous in contributing, willing - and after all, we work for a cause and not for our individual gains.

How can you help?
You can help in any of the following ways.
  • You can help by volunteering - organise events, demonstrate simple experiments (high school level, should be a cinch to you :P) We will hold the event on a weekend so that you won't be having issues.
  • You can help by donating money - Any amount, including as low as Rs 25 is appreciated. After all, drops and drops, maketh ocean. Like we said, even showing a small test tube is a big deal for them
  • If you are not sure if your money will reach the right destination, you can help by giving in kind - You can directly give test tubes, books etc. The requirements of these children is currently being assessed. If you would like to be a part of this, we will let you know when the assessment is complete.
  • If you would like to help by teaching computers, great! Remember, they don't know the ABC of it.

Transparency
We will try to make the entire process as transparent as possible. Also, we will ensure regular checks on the equipment and chemicals that are donated in order to curtail pilferage as well as replace broken equipment and replenish reagents.

We are open to suggestions
We still have not frozen the entire idea - Like I said, we are still in the brain storming mode. So, all suggestions are welcome. This mail is only to know if you would be willing to contribute in any of the ways mentioned above - If yes how. You don't have to provide specific information right now - like how to volunteer or amount you would like to donate. Just tell us how you would like to contribute. Also, it would be great if you could spread the word. It's open to everyone.

You will receive an official invitation from PESIT subsequently if you are interested.
Faculty Co-ordinator
Smt. Geetha Prakash,
Dept ECE
PESIT

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Nikhil Baliga

Thursday, 2 June 2011

Girls are.... funny!

Swami Nikhilaananda said:
"The chances of me knowing Brahman is higher than me understanding girls"

A very funny story that happened in real life, and reminds me a lot of a particular scene from Friends involving Chandler. But let me narrate it to you as it happened.

Let's call the guy as Raj and the girl as Ria.
Raj and Ria go to a coffee place, and are sipping coffee... and Raj is having a pleasant conversation with Ria about something, when suddenly Ria tells Raj - "Look at that girl, she looks so pretty". Raj instinctively turns around, looks at the girl for a second, turns back and says "Yeah, she's nice... so as I was saying......" and stops looking at the smouldering glare coming out of Ria's eyes. "Ummm something wrong?" he asked, and she said - "You looked? I can't believe you looked!!". And Raj said - "Uh didn't YOU ask me to look? I wasn't even looking in that direction till you asked me to!" and she replied - "Yeah! That was a test! Just because I ask you to look at other girls, you do it, is it?". Raj was confused, because he knew girls also get pissed if you don't do things they want.

So, Raj was determined to show he was right. So, after listening to a lot of complaining from her for looking, he called two of her best friends, and narrated the incident. "... and so, I turned to look at her and - "... "Whoa whoa back up there a little" said one of her friends, "You looked?" And Raj was shocked! What the- Had he missed something? They yelled at him for looking at another girl in front of her while she had a smug expression on her face, satisfied that she was right (as usual :P)

Dejected Raj went to his friends (guys) and told them the story... and all guys had only one response "So, how was she?" And thus ends the difference between guys and girls ;-)

Remember: Girls are always right... Don't bother trying to prove them wrong